Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/The Cabal of Fundamentalists

N.b. its really late here, I will probably sort this out into proper format sometime soon. CheeseDreams 22:53, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

statement

I am accusing certain parties of operating a cabal, and using it to enforce their POV, and harass those who disapprove (such as me), for example by using RfC to operate a "who can slag CheeseDreams off more" competition. They are accusing me of abusive language, violates the 3RR rule, fuels edit wars, failures of dispute resolution (see the RfC) page.

I am bringing an RfAr against the cabal.

About 50% of the users making the RfC against me operate a cabal. This is clear from their editing, behaviour around reversion wars, talk pages they frequent, and the manner in which they contact each other to edit that page.

I further accuse them of harrassment in bringing a ViP against me (which I converted into an RfC and then the RfAr against myself - the reason behind which was to get them to collect all of their accusations together, list them all in one place, and settle this thing once and for all).

I also accuse them of violations of Wikipedia:Civility, for example, persistantly calling for bans (prohibited by the policy).

CheeseDreams 22:53, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

evidence of my accusers operating a cabal

N.b. this is very elemental list, and by no means all the evidence I intend to produce

edit histories to articles will give significantly more evidence, and I shall provide it more shortly when I awake the next day

for example, the following was on JdWolf's talk page

Since you seem to be involved, would you be interested in signing Wikipedia:Requests for comment/CheeseDreams#Users_certifying_the_basis_for_this_dispute? --[[User:Eequor|ᓛᖁᑐ]] 23:14, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I have never met JdWolf before, so fail to see how he was involved.

Soliciting enmity from GRider-

Hello. CheeseDreams has made a particularly odd comment at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Christology; would you be interested in signing Wikipedia:Requests for comment/CheeseDreams#Users_certifying_the_basis_for_this_dispute? --[[User:Eequor|ᓛᖁᑐ]] 10:06, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I have never met GRider before

From Jmabel's talk page

Since you seem to be involved, would you be interested in signing Wikipedia:Requests for comment/CheeseDreams#Users_certifying_the_basis_for_this_dispute? --[[User:Eequor|ᓛᖁᑐ]] 23:32, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I have never met Jmabel before

From Aranel's talk page

Since you seem to be involved, would you be interested in signing Wikipedia:Requests for comment/CheeseDreams#Users_certifying_the_basis_for_this_dispute? --[[User:Eequor|ᓛᖁᑐ]] 23:19, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I have never met Aranel before

From El_C's talk page

I'd appreciate your help. Cultural and historical background of Jesus This page was recently unprotected. FT2 revised it, then I revised it considerably, mostly adding information. CheeseDreams just reverted it and threatens to revert any work I do. Please compare my version to the previous one (FT2) and comment. Thanks Slrubenstein

(The text by FT2 was specifically meant to be discussed for 2 days, rather than overwritten, so as to avoid restarting an edit war. Slrubenstein overwrote it). CheeseDreams 19:37, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

From 172's talk page

Hey, I'd really appreciate it if you would review and comment the discussion on Cultural and Historical Context of Jesus. Even if this field is not something you are expert in, I value your sensibilities as an historian, It is a very long discussion, I'd be glad if you would just review and comment on the section on "new messiah" and the subsequent sections/discussions, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cultural_and_historical_background_of_Jesus#New_Messiah_paragraph Thanks, Slrubenstein 17:16, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

From John Kenney's talk page

I am engaged in an argument with CheeseDream on this talk page. I have just accused him off a personal attack and I suspect racism. I am not sure whether this is a banable offense. I am concerned too that I am making too much of something. I'd appreciate it if you could look at the relevant material and give me your take -- tell me if you think I am misreading the situation or responding to it inappropriately. Please look at this article's talk page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cultural_and_historical_background_of_Jesus#Saducees_vs._Pharisees and look at the section on "Saducees vs. Pharisees" and "CheeseDream Verges on racism" to get the salient facts. Thanks, Slrubenstein

and

John, I'd really appreciate it if you would review and comment the discussion on Cultural and Historical Context of Jesus. Even if this field is not something you are expert in, I value your sensibilities as an historian, It is a very long discussion, I'd be glad if you would just review and comment on the section on "new messiah" and the subsequent sections/discussions, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cultural_and_historical_background_of_Jesus#New_Messiah_paragraph Thanks, Slrubenstein 17:17, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

From Andy L's talk page

I am engaged in an argument with CheeseDream on this talk page. I have just accused him off a personal attack and I suspect racism. I am not sure whether this is a banable offense. I am concerned too that I am making too much of something. I'd appreciate it if you could look at the relevant material and give me your take -- tell me if you think I am misreading the situation or responding to it inappropriately. Please look at this article's talk page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cultural_and_historical_background_of_Jesus#Saducees_vs._Pharisees and look at the section on "Saducees vs. Pharisees" and "CheeseDream Verges on racism" to get the salient facts. Thanks, Slrubenstein

From Jayjg's talk page

I have made my own proposal for the "new messiah" section, and would appreciate your comments. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cultural_and_historical_background_of_Jesus#New_Messiah_paragraph -- thanksSlrubenstein

In consequence of the above, I have since 2 days hence, solicited comment from users who have met the above and disputed their behaviour.

Childish behaviour of my accusers

Re. Homoeroticism quote.

I do not consider jealousy due to their lack of wit as justifiable complaint against me. CheeseDreams 19:26, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Re. being a sock puppet

You're kiddin', right, honey? YOU ARE GOING DOWN! *ROFLMFAO* Piglet 01:05, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

A quote from this page

Hahahahaha! This is a WAR you can NOT win, CheesyCake! Piglet 21:31, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

A quote from this page

Kindly sign your comments with the ~~~~ so we can know who is saying things, and if they are worthy of comment. Thank you. IZAK 04:01, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

-I fail to see how knowing who made a comment determines whether it is worthy or notCheeseDreams 19:31, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)