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QT Intro

Quentin Tarantino intro includes an uncited qoute: "the single most influential director of his generation”. To date, I have been unable to find this exact quote referenced anywhere. At present, this quote should be tagged ^{[citation needed]}. Looking forclarity (talk) 13:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typically text in the article lead doesn't have inline citations, per MOS:LEADCITE. If you look under the Appraisals section you'll find two citations for the quotation. Ligaturama (talk) 14:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. Looking forclarity (talk) 13:14, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

suggested rewrite on sentence in the intro

"Tarantino's career, his films have garnered a cult following; as well as critical and commercial success, he has been considered "the single most influential director of his generation"."

this reads very weirdly to me. usually a semicolon placed like this implies that the following subsentence will build off the content before the semicolon, but here it seems to go off in another direction. 216.164.249.213 (talk) 20:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Identifies as having Cherokee descent"

This language is very pointlessly clunky and strange sounding. You don't "identify as" having Cherokee descent, you just have it, the same as any other race/ethnicity. It stands out as a counterproductive attempt at PC language. It especially stands out in the full sentence, "Tarantino identifies as having Cherokee descent through his mother, who is of Irish descent on her other side; his father is of Italian descent." Cherokee heritage is the only one with the "identifies as" added. It isn't claimed that his mother "identifies as having Irish descent" or his father "identifies as having Italian descent."

Proposed rewrite:

"Tarantino is of Cherokee descent through his mother, who is of Irish descent on her other side; his father is of Italian descent."

Alternatively:

"Tarantino has Cherokee descent through his mother, who is of Irish descent on her other side; his father is of Italian descent."

I wasn't sure which one sounded the most natural. Both sound a lot more natural than "identifies as having Cherokee descent," though. 2601:483:4B80:F480:0:0:0:BF0F (talk) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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"His second film, Pulp Fiction (1994), a dark comedy crime thriller, was a major success with critics and audiences winning numerous awards, including..."

English isn't my first language. But I'm pretty sure this should be

"was a major success with critics and audiences, winning numerous awards..."

Note the comma after audiences. Right? The original makes it sound like Pulp Fiction was a hit with audiences who won numerous awards, not that the film was an audience hit and won numerous awards. If not my apologies for wasting time 2A02:C7E:2F68:AC00:5AC:2102:BECA:C2B4 (talk) 17:10, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Bang on. I wish my comprehension was that good in another language. PianoDan (talk) 16:52, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spike Lee weight issue

@Rvert: noticed your change in the lead. Made me look at the larger issue. To me it seems the weight given to Spike Lee's opinion in Quentin_Tarantino#Usage_of_racial_slurs_in_films that is now summarized in wikivoice in the WP:LEAD is undue. Obviously Spike Lee as a director competitor (both are film directors) and thus Lee would have a COI issue. Do we have other's commenting on the subject about the racism issues or is this only Lee? If it is only Lee, then we should maybe attribute it to Lee (we dont need to wipe it but the section might be called Lee's thoughts, or something like that) but then the summary in the LEAD will also attribute to LEAD or we will drop from the LEAD as Lee's opinion FRINGE. To be doing this in wikivoice on a BLP we need a chorus, not just one other (potentially) jealous director Jtbobwaysf (talk) 08:59, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jtbobwaysf Thanks for the invite. My main point is that the lead should not be devoid of any criticism regardless of subject matter. I understand your point that criticism should be from more than one individual rather than (from your POV) a "jealous director". However, it was a high profile row which sparked a wider conversation, therefore the weight should be placed on the importance of the discussion rather than lack of voices on one side.

Perhaps more comments from the Django Unchained/Use of racial slurs and portrayal of slavery section could be added. Then there will be more critics so the header and the amendment as a remark specific to Spike Lee isn't required. Denzel Washington had a spat with Tarantino regarding the racist dialogue on Crimson Tide; predating Lee's comments, so not really fringe.

Also if we use the same rule-of-measurement, then it's unclear why you have removed criticism regarding "depictions of violence" of which there are many detractors. That discussion continues to bother Tarantino as documented in this article. Rvert (talk) 03:31, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]