Wikipedia talk:Canonization

It´s very important exemplarize the use of wiktionary from wikipedia, because some articles are not really encyclopedic, but dyctionarial.

Because of this, I include clearly how to write a link to wiktionary.

I don't know if this is the place to ask, but what about other protocols? Wikipedia:IRC channel would like to make an [irc://]-style link for Mozilla users and others with the appropriate hooks. -Geoffrey

I love the idea !!! I suggest include it in the wiki links

Capitalizing the first letter of article titles

I just made an article titled I'noGo tied but the link is from a lower-case "i" at the beginning, and I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be, at least according to my source (even at the beginning of a sentence, so I assume it's a pronunciation thing in Inuit). The system automatically switched it. Is there anyway around that? Not really a huge deal, I guess; it's still in lowercase in the article itself.--User: Tokerboy

You can link to it with leading lowercase, but you should talk to LDC about whether there's anyway to make it display the title with leading lowercase. --KQ

There isn't one, but you could talk with him about making one. --Brion

Old discussion relating to an old version of the software

A better strategy might be

remove all accents, umlauts and other diacriticals
convert all non-alphanumerics to underscores
delete all leading and trailing underscores, and replace any consecutive underscores with a single underscore
uppercase the first letter, and any letter that follows an underscore
lowercase all characters that were not explicitly uppercased in #4

What happened finally with the wiki canonization discussed here?? The new scheme was implemented on the non-english wikis, but the new version (magnus' one) used the ols scheme. what will happen? (specially since the links and article names in the non-english wikipedias are made using the all uppercase scheme... AN

Basically, we never switched to the newest version of UseModWiki, because we never solved the problem of the namespace crunch, where "Foo Bar" and "foo bar" were distinct articles in Wikipedia but one of which would be lost in converting to the newest version of UseModWiki.

After working on the Nupedia Chalkboard, which does use the latest version of UseModWiki, as for myself, I've more or less come to the conclusion that it's rather better to have the old format, which does distinguish between upper and lower case in titles. I'm not directly responsible for the fact that Magnus' software does distinguish between upper and lower case in titles, but neither did I speak up when I noticed that it still does. Frankly, I was a bit relieved that it did, because the titles do look nicer according to the older standard. I think we'd have even more of a problem (a wetware problem) with people making links All Upper Case, since they think that'd be necessary for the link to work. --LMS

er....what?

I have no idea from reading this article what Canonization means, what its use is, and why it exists as an idea. Please help me to understand, and please update the page so others can learn too. thanks. Kingturtle 02:59, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC)

It appears to be trying to refer to the process of transforming a given title to its canonical (standard, official) form, though I'm not convinced "canonization" is the correct word for this. --Brion 03:18, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC)

"Canonicalization"?

I'm pretty sure this page should be at Wikipedia:Canonicalization. Yes, "canonicalize" is a neologism, but it's quite common in computer programming circles. There's really no definition of "canonize" which means "to render canonical" -- it seems like a well-intentioned but fault back formation, here. "Canonize" mostly means "to recognize as a saint", and although there are some Wikipedia saints, that's not what this page seem to be about. --ESP 20:04, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC)