Talk:List of Manhattan neighborhoods
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Strivers Row
[edit]Under "Harlem," is the name "Strivers Row" really defunct? The name is used to refer to the elegant strip of brownstones and clubs along Frederick Douglass Boulevard (universally called Eighth Avenue) around the 140s (probably from 135 St. to the low 150s) where the Harlem politicos and intelligentsia live. I won't delete "defunct" immediately, but will wait for a discussion on this point.
Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.149.57.95 (talk) 06:42, 16 March 2005
You're probably right. I have heard Strivers Row in contemporary usage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.107.73.93 (talk) 23:53, 25 May 2005
Map of Manhattan neighborhood's
[edit]It would be a good thing if somebody can find or create a map of Manhattan's neighborhood, mainly famous one such as the Lower east Side, Greenwich Village ?--Revas 8 July 2005 17:56 (UTC)
Actually, I'm working on a neighborhood map of all 5 boroughs right now. I'll post it when I'm done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.199.100.109 (talk) 06:37, 19 July 2005
- I have a list of the street coordinates of these neighborhoods I think will be helpful in this case. I'll put it up, but be warned -- this will be a drastic edit to this page!--gwc 04:43, 19 November 2006 (UTC) (Note, I only used information consolidated from other wikipedia pages.)
- good job reorganising the page! Where did you get the list from? I have attempted a map from an old 1920 map of Manhattan using the information on the neighborhood articles. wasn't sure how best to show so many overlapping neighborhoods so I did them as outlines. please forgive any mistakes as the notion of neighborhoods is very inexact, and having been there only once my knowledge of NYC is not so great. --Astrokey44 22:01, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- I like what you've done, but I think it would benefit from being overlayed on a newer map and a change of font. It's hard to read as it is right now. --Athaler (talk) 17:31, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
71.230.133.100 (talk) 02:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC)Diamond district is mislabeled on map it's between 5th and 6th; it is shown as between 6th and 7th!!!!!
It's great how the neighborhoods are listed from north to south. Last time I saw this page they were listed alphabetically, which confused me somewhat - it's not the way I usually think of neighborhoods; sort of like asking someone to list the months of the year alphabetically. - Matthew238 07:53, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
The map has a couple of errors: Nolita is spelled wrong, without the i, and Nolita is not inside of Little Italy; the north border of Little Italy should stop at Broome St, at the bottom of Nolita (which is correct). 71.190.66.244 (talk) 20:18, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
How about Midtown East vs Midtown West, and what about adding Lenox Hill on the UES. 71.190.66.244 (talk) 20:37, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
"Little Germany," or "Kleindeutschland," as it was known by locals at the time, occupied much of what is now considered the East Village/Alphabet City and the Lower East Side (Avenue B was nicknamed "German Broadway"). The map erroneously circles only a few blocks around Tompkins Square as the extent of "Little Germany." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.165.55.128 (talk) 07:07, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
There is a map of Manhattan neighborhoods at http://www.zetashapes.com, but it doesn't match the descriptions here. Do you think we should edit it to make it match?
SuperGerbil (talk) 23:59, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- Why is the map in this article so poor? Part of Manhattan is cut off at the top, many neighborhoods are not labeled, and the street names cannot be read. It's an embarrassment, and we can do better. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 08:59, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Neighborhood naming convention
[edit]In case anyone hadn't noticed, Wikipedia:Communities strawpoll is voting on a uniform naming convention for all neighborhoods of U.S. cities. The proposition currently leading by a wide margin would apparently entail renaming most New York City neighborhood articles to something like neighborhood, New York, New York. older ≠ wiser 19:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- I wasn't involved in this (now inactive) strawpoll, but from what I read, I think it refers to actual neighborhoods, and not a general list of neighborhoods.
- That said, my opinion is that this article as named ("List of Manhattan neighborhoods") is extremely difficult to find, even impossible for actual people (perhaps unfamiliar to Wikipedia) just looking for a list of Manhattan neighborhoods.
- I would prefer a name as simple and intuitive as possible, perhaps Manhattan neighborhoods. However, the current name is acceptable as long as the necessary redirects exist.
Little Italy???
[edit]I'm confused (and perhaps a history lesson is in order). On the map of the Manhattan neighborhoods, Little Italy shown to be downtown, inside the area marked as Chinatown. However, on the base map ("Chief Points of Interest in Upper/Lower Manhattan") there is a "Little Italy" label inside the area now marked as "Spanish Harlem." Why the discrepency? --Mark French —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 160.93.202.247 (talk) 16:54, 2 February 2007 (UTC).
- Look at the Spanish Harlem Article. It says, "It was formerly known as Italian Harlem, and still harbors a small Italian American population." The base map is from 1920. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 17:57, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Made-up neighborhoods
[edit]While I am no expert, I live in "Little Constance" but have never heard of my street being called that. A message board of locals also has not heard of that name. And a further search of the Web for LC only turns up sites that cite a now-removed Wikipedia quote "lately became known as little constance". I propose removal of that neighborhood from the list. (The term "Little Constance" was added in the 04:44, 28 November 2006 version.) Miraj31415 21:00, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- I think the made-up neighborhood issue is problematic for this article. Also, I think it's important keep in mind what a neighborhood is when adding information. There have been entries which state that a street (Korea Way in Korea Town) or stand alone building (Ansonia) is a neighborhood when a bit of research will show that they are not. Wikipedia is not a place to try and promote a new neighborhood name either, as was the case with "Little Constance" and "Hudson". If these areas in question are or have become neighborhoods, then some references would be great when including the information.Eatabullet (talk) 03:32, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Map add on
[edit]Why does the map of Manhattan end with Harlem? The Island of Manhattan continues with more neighborhoods (Washington Heights, Fort George and Inwood) can someone add these neighborhoods to the map. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrMafiaNostra (talk • contribs) 16:04, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- 2009 => 2020; nothing done. It's inexcusable, and it does not reflect well on our project. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 09:00, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
CPW and CPS and Upper 5th Ave
[edit]Central Park South and Central Park West and Upper Fifth Avenue ought to be listed as neighborhoods in their own right. Central Park South is rarely referred to as "Midtown". This would be similar to Sutton Place which is a street and a neighborhood. 71.190.66.244 (talk) 20:11, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
- - disagree - - I disagree. None of those streets you listed are neighborhoods. If anything, they're real estate names. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.215.251.182 (talk) 18:01, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
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- This file is a derivative file which introduced errors into the map such as the misspelling of "Koreatown" as "Koreatow". I have restored this article to the use of the original file File:Manhattan neighborhoods.png. Beyond My Ken (talk) 09:26, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Well obviously it should be removed until it's edited enough to come back. I still agree with replacing the image with a font that's easier to read. Back to the drawing board on mine though. I have errors to correct, like Koreatown.
Can you tell me what the other errors are though? Besides spelling errors and left out words. Those I've corrected. The Ansonia is *not* a neighborhood and neither is Cooperative Village. Five Points doesn't exist anymore. Tenderloin is no longer a red light district. Little Germany is no longer predominately German. All of these neighborhoods on this wiki are referred to in the past tense.
OGatsby (talk) 16:50, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
- Those neighborhoods were clearly marked as historical, and by removing them you have decreased the value of the map. I am restoring the original map. Do not edit war to put your inerior version back in. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:10, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
- I did not remove them, and they were not 'clearly marked' on the original map. What I did was make it more obvious that they were historical, and I noted that a couple of the marked areas were landmarks, not neighborhoods. In these regards, the original was inferior (not for the historical neighborhoods, but for the landmarks). I have no intention of getting into an edit war with you. You seem to be much, much more hostile than you need to be for this situation, and I take offense to the patronizing, holier-than-thou tone you're using. OGatsby (talk) 21:32, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
- Then next time don't make major changes without discussion. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:19, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
- I did not remove them, and they were not 'clearly marked' on the original map. What I did was make it more obvious that they were historical, and I noted that a couple of the marked areas were landmarks, not neighborhoods. In these regards, the original was inferior (not for the historical neighborhoods, but for the landmarks). I have no intention of getting into an edit war with you. You seem to be much, much more hostile than you need to be for this situation, and I take offense to the patronizing, holier-than-thou tone you're using. OGatsby (talk) 21:32, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Complete Map Revision
[edit]I suggest a completely new version of the neighborhood map. The file as it exists now (and in the updated version noted above) has a number of major issues that should be addressed:
- The map only extends to 145th (?) Street, leaving out all of Washington Heights and Inwood.
- The background map adds confusion by being outdated.
- The definition of a neighborhood is, as has been noted, inconsistent.
- Perhaps stemming from the last point, the map is especially confusing From Midtown south.
- The font is bad.
I suggest that someone creates a new map where the criteria for being included are much more stringent. Dgood3001 (talk) 07:48, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
- Just don't forget to clear it with Beyond My Ken... OGatsby (talk) 20:01, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
- Next time, do a better job. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:49, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- There is no set definition of neighborhood boundaries in New York City. The city doesn't set them, they're up for grabs and are determined basically by usage. The other problems are clearly fixable, but remember that the base map must be a non-copyrighted one. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:48, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- We could easily get an up-to-date copyleft map from openstreetmap and the like. There are some lands that are not present in the current ancient map we are using. Updating the map's neighborhood boundaries to be consistent with the article and rest of Wikipedia would be nice. --Kaledomo (talk) 13:26, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
Non-neighborhoods
[edit]I think there are some non-neighborhoods in this list, such as squares (Times Sq, Herald Sq); parks (Marcus Garvey Pk); and housing developments (PCVST, Coop VIllage). Epicgenius (talk) 02:41, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- PCVST, Coop Village, Herald Sq, Times Sq are all legitimate neighborhoods. The World Trade Center is not. Please stop dicking around with this list, as you clearly don't know what makes a neighborhood and what doessn't. BMK (talk) 04:54, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- So, please add reliable sources; otherwise, this whole article is original research. Epicgenius (talk) 14:05, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
- Have to agree with Epicgenius. I've looked at a few of the boundaries listed here, and all but one of those neighborhoods' boundaries were highly at odds with those given by cited sources at the neighborhoods' article pages. --Tenebrae (talk) 19:41, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
- So, please add reliable sources; otherwise, this whole article is original research. Epicgenius (talk) 14:05, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
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Racist Map
[edit]As others have pointed out, Manhattan neighborhoods do not end at 145th st. It expands upwards into Washington Heights, Inwood and, yes, Marble Hill. How about y'all own up to this and actually fix this. Yes Manhattan Island now ends at Inwood, BUT, Manhattan borough (as in New York County) has Marble Hill in it. Stop erasing the people of color please. If this comment is ignored, I actually might call more media into this discussion. Not trying to start issues, just trying to fix them. 2600:4041:52EE:2500:2572:A336:7DAD:9933 (talk) 04:52, 9 September 2023 (UTC)