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Airport codes

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So Lommer just reverted my edit to add the airport codes to the opening paragraph of this article, citing the fact that they are in the infobox. His (i'm assuming) edits are not incorrect, but i want to put down why i disagree.

  • The codes are redirects to this aiport

The codes appear in bold at the beginning of the article, which is standard wikipedia style for alternate names for things (if something has multiple names) and those bold words should redirect to the article, which they do.

  • This is standard accoss many airport articles

In all the airport articles that i have edited lately, i have been placing the codes just after the primary name, and before the alternate names. I am a big fan of standard layout, and i don't feel it should be altered if the codes appear in a table.

The table seems more like "extra info cleverly formatted" but should not remove the codes from the opening paragraph.

Wikipedia:WikiProject_Airports doesn't seem to say much about what should be done when the info box exists, and perhaps that would be a more suitable place to discuss this. (Man, after checking my own link, the Layout page actually has the codes in the table and in the opening paragraph. However, this issue is still up for discussion, i think)

In summary, i support restoring my codes to the opening paragraph. Please comment

-- Fudoreaper 07:09:32, 2005-08-17 (UTC)

You're right Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports is the right place for this discussion. I've duplicated your comment there (I hope that's ok) and started an informal survey. -Lommer | talk 17:33, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I've reinserted the codes as per consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports. -Lommer | talk 05:08, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Opening

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An anon edited here to change the opening from 1914 to 1939. After a minor bit of research I get both dates as the opening, 1914 and 1939. Any idea which is the correct one? CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 01:34, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would guess that the 1914 date is the correct one and that the airport experienced a period of disuse in between. OTOH, it's easy to see how a statement like "The airport was founded in the first year of WWII" could be mistakenly interpreted to mean 1914, and the second source is considerably more detailed. Do any other sources indicate 1914? -User:Lommer | talk 20:38, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
the second link is no longer active, the first points to the following information "1914 — World War I began. The Patricia Bay Airport was constructed as a training site for the Allied Forces. (It continues to operate today as Victoria International Airport)." so, the airport used to be called pat bay airport but the name was changed after it was no longer in use as a military training site. Zarkov (talk) 09:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've changed the opening year back to 1939 for several reasons:
  1. The reference that was there no longer exists.
  2. I'm unable to find any source for the 1914 year that doesn't quote this article (ie. circular reference).
  3. Both the BC Aviation Museum and Victoria Airport itself (see the Airport History section of that PDF) give the late 1930s as the opening date.
  4. There was a rail line running right through the middle of the airport's location up until at least 1924.--Lest69 (talk) 20:10, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Victoria-Waterloo Service by WestJet

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Okay, so I took out Waterloo, based on two things: First, the guidelines per Wikipedia: WikiProject Airports standard as stated here and I quote: "List non-stop and direct flights only. That means the flight number and the aircraft, starts at this airport and continues to one or more airports. Avoid using the description 'via' since that is more correctly listed as another destination. If passengers can not disembark at a stop on a direct flight, then do not list it as a destination or as 'via'. Direct flights are not always non-stop flights. However, avoid listing direct flights that contain a stop at a domestic hub, as virtually all of these are simply flights from one "spoke city" to a hub, with the plane continuing from the hub to a second spoke city. Furthermore, these flights often involve plane changes, despite the direct designation. Including these flights dramatically increases the length of destination listings, artificially inflates the airline's presence at a location and requires constant updating, as these "timetable direct" destinations have little rhyme or reason and may change as often as every week or two." This meaning that on this article we cannot put down destinations that require a stop that requires a change in plane by the Airline Operator. Which leads to my second thing. Secondly, according to WestJet's website, after searching up their schedule for service between Victoria and Kitchener-Waterloo this is what I found:

Week of Feb 10 - Feb 16

Victoria to Kitchener-Waterloo

Flight Number Depart Arrive Stops Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat

WS798/484 7:00AM 5:40PM CNX Y

WS90/484 9:05AM 5:40PM CNX Y Y Y Y Y Y Y

Arrivals Legend

N/S The flight is non-stop

/1 The flight makes one stop, no change of planes

/2 The flight makes two stops, no change of planes

CNX The flight has a connection, change of planes

2CNX The flight has two connections, change of planes

Y There is a scheduled flight. Click on any Y to view fares or book that flight.

+1 Indicates next day

+2 Indicates two days

Between Victoria and Waterloo requires a stop, and a change in plane in Calgary, that is why I removed Waterloo. I hope to have made this clear, feel free to respond to this if you want. SFOetthekid (talk) 05:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


San Francisco

Air Canada has two flights a day to SF(non stop). I'd add it but I'm not quit sure how to do it on my Black Berry. Just check the air canada web page and see. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.171.235.224 (talk) 11:34, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

676 Kittyhawk Squadron

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I noticed that 443 Maritime Helicopter Squadron was mentioned, but not the Royal Canadian Air Cadets (RCAC) squadron at the Victoria Airport. 676 Squadron may be of some relevance in the Flight Training section, as they offer both glider and powered flight lessons, and can be a good first step in getting a pilot's licence. If no one objects, I'll add a blurb in Flight Training.CatGrass (talk) 06:47, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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USA Preclearance

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Good afternoon, I have just deleted the reference to the planned addition of a USA Preclearance area. I was informed today by Victoria International Airport that they are no planning to add US Customs Preclearance. https://twitter.com/Fly_YYJ/status/758784171653431297 Cheers. ElCerritoGuy (talk) 22:13, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Patricia Bay Heliport?

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While doing some rewriting of the Shearwater Heliport (formerly CFB Shearwater article), I was unable to find any WP:RELIABLE secondary sources clearly referring to the RCAF facility at YYJ as "Patricia Bay Heliport". The name is repeated on some unofficial military clickbait websites, which leads me to believe that it may be a nickname that has evolved into spurious unofficial name via citogenesis. I found this 2015 Times Colonist story explaining that the new (as of 2015) RCAF complex has been named Arundel Castle, which is consistent with the name used on recent maps and visible in the Google Earth street view. I'm purging the main article of references to "Patricia Bay Heliport" and replacing them with "Arundel Castle". If anyone has a quality secondary source indicating that Patricia Bay Heliport was in fact an official Canadian Forces or RCAF name, feel free to add this to the History section. Carguychris (talk) 17:24, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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