Talk:Pallas
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[edit]I don't understand the assertion that numbers are more useful than bullets in this disambiguation page. What is the useful meaning of the fact that an obscure British rock band is numbered "4" whereas an asteroid discovered two centuries ago is numbered "5"? What useful information does "4" give us? I've changed them so that they may be closer to chronological, but even now, someone my insert another meaning of the word Pallas between the 4th and 5th, so that the one that was 5th becomes 6th. What useful information comes from knowing that it's 5th in the list, when next week it could become 6th as a result of some unrelated topic getting listed there? Michael Hardy 17:52, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- I find it interesting to know, when I read a disambiguation page, how many definitions there are, and see know reason I (or anyone else) should have to count them when we have this handy Wiki shorthand for creating ordered lists. It's not critical information, I'd agree, but it's interesting to know, it's trivial to do, and it impacts readability of the page not in the slightest.
- Moreover, I think the items should be listed in order of significance (or popularity, or something similar), rather than chronology - this is how most disambiguation lists are ordered. That said, I have no specific objection to the current order in this article. -mhr 00:15, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
In some cases, order of significance may be the best way, especially when the different meanings of the word are unrelated (in some cases -- lot's of cases, actually -- people have written about very much related meanings of a word while apparently thinking they were altogether unrelated; convention, for example, and many others). In other cases, the earlier meanings can explain the later one, so chronology is edifying.
- No argument there. In many cases, chronology and significance may be the same, or nearly so. -mhr 01:51, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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[edit]The article Pallas has essentially turned into another disambiguation page (with some expanded info). Perhaps it should be combined with this page, and stubs could be made of any noteworthy Pallas. - Ravenous 19:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, I'm going ahead and with it. There is now a stub for any noteworthy Pallas, and the main Pallas article will soon redirect here. There are two that are questionable, I wasn't able to find any real info on them:
- "Pallas, an archaic winged god, with wings attached either to the ankles or to his back, like the archaic winged goddesses. He was, according to one tradition, the father of Pallas Athena and tried to rape her. She killed him and tore his skin off to make the Aegis."
- It looks like this may have come from here: http://www.goddess-athena.org/Athenaeum/Psychology/Athena/The_androgyny_of_Athena.htm - but I wasn't able to find any primary sources or other info on it.
- "Pallas, the son of Heracles and Lavinia, daughter of Evander. He died as a child, and the town of Pallantium was named after him."
- Unable to find anything to substantiate this one.
- "Pallas, an archaic winged god, with wings attached either to the ankles or to his back, like the archaic winged goddesses. He was, according to one tradition, the father of Pallas Athena and tried to rape her. She killed him and tore his skin off to make the Aegis."
- - Ravenous 22:02, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
In line with Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Page naming conventions I've moved "Pallas (disambiguation)" to "Pallas". DrKiernan 16:17, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
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