Talk:Norwegian rocket incident

Simple fact checking required

Need somebody consult a map, because Barents sea literally washes the Russian mainland and even a stone thrown from the Barents sea waters would reach Russian mainland in less than 10 minutes that the article claims it would take a Trident missile, no less, to reach Russian mainland from the Barents sea

Old talk

Blocky and halting, needs a rewrite and context... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fledgeling (talk • contribs) 23:27, January 20, 2005

Yeltsin Evidently Didn't Call Clinton Either

In the various reports I've read of this, there never has been a mention of Yeltsin calling then President Clinton on the "hotline," a fact that should be added if verified. If I get a chance I'll try to add some more factoids, especially the history of such errors and regarding the various versions of how close Yeltsin came to pushing the button. Carol Moore 01:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)User:Carolmooredc User talk:Carolmooredc

As "hotline" use is classified at TS with alphabet soup after the primary designator, said facts will NOT be available for at least a generation, due to current US security policies about such things.Wzrd1 (talk) 06:20, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Sources of notification

I had heard that Russia was never actually notified of this test by the United States. When I read the section that said that they had in fact notified Russia, there was no inline citation for this. Can anyone confirm or deny that this actually happened? 69.168.144.150 (talk) 09:09, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Still no citation listed, though any would be rather likely to be classified, hence not available to Wikipedia or any other civilian source. One can go no further in consideration, if one were in my shoes.Wzrd1 (talk) 06:21, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

This was a test by Norway, not the United States. Mortyman (talk) 14:51, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Dead external link

The first external link 'PBS Close Call' comes up as 404 with me. Should it be removed?

Trajectory Intentional?

It is stated that "Notably, there is still no clear and direct confirmation whether or not the trajectory of the rocket was taken by mistake, caused by computer, or the result of some other technical failure." But that assumes that the trajectory was unintentional. Isn't it possible that the rocket followed the path it was intended to follow? Either the scientists didn't realise that the path might alarm the Soviets, or the trajectory was intended to provoke a Soviet response.203.184.41.226 (talk) 07:13, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

I spoke with one of the scientists who participated in this launch today. One relevant tidbit was that rockets being launched from this location were nothing new: It wasn't the particular trajectory that made the Russians take notice - it was (in his opinion) the fact that this was the first time the Black Brant rocket was launched from that location, which is unique in that it has a second stage while most sounding rockets launched from Andoya were single stage. The second stage separation matched the signature of a Trident missle - something the Russians hadn't seen before. Sorry I don't have citations for this, but hopefully it will provide you details on where to look. [edited Feb 03 2020] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.32.18.7 (talk) 00:31, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Call from ABC News

As it happened, I was serving my military conscription with the region's assigned commander (or possibly lieutenant commander) when this incident happened. We were playing bridge in the command centre of the navy's submarine pen. The commander's phone rang, and while still holding his playing cards, he answered in Norwegian intonation by stating his last name. He then stated his rank and last name twice in English. He then said, matter of factly, and still with a rather heavy Norwegian intonation, "No, we have not fired any missiles against Russia. No. We have not fired any missiles against Russia." He then repeated his last name, before concluding with "Have a nice day" and hanging up the phone. He then put down the playing cards, said "That was ABC News" in Norwegian, stood up, said "I have to make a couple of calls", and left the room. I never heard anything more about the incident apart from what I read in the newspapers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.247.159.163 (talk) 22:59, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

See also - other incidents

There should be links to other, similar incidents, e.g., 5 October, 1960 (though, curiously, there seems to be no Wik article about it, and that date does not mention this event on the October 1960 Wik page) - UCS close call FS.indd (ucsusa.org) 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:C6F:ACDD:C776:8445 (talk) 02:47, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

For some reason, C&P gives an incomplete paste. Here is the site copied bit by bit: https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/attach/2015/04/Close%20Calls%20with%20Nuclear%20Weapons.pdf 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:C6F:ACDD:C776:8445 (talk) 02:50, 13 December 2022 (UTC)