Talk:Crap
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Requested move
[edit]- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was move. JPG-GR (talk) 05:44, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Crap (disambiguation) → Crap —(Discuss)— This is now a misplaced disambiguation page. It would be more useful for Crap to go directly there rather than simply the reference to wiktionary is is now. Note that this is sort of a merge request as there should be a short definition at the top of such a disambiguation page. —The way, the truth, and the light (talk) 02:17, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- support the wiktionary thing can be a box. 70.55.85.225 (talk) 05:09, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
- Support — The definition should only be the Wiktionary box. ENeville (talk) 05:58, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Move executed at 05:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC). The prior contents of this Talk page have been archived into page-history. Rossami (talk)
See also section
[edit]I've performed a cleanup of this page and removed/reworded a number of entries, but left crapflooding and Thomas Crapper in place in the "see also" section as they at least seem to be related -- part of me wanted to remove them though. Feel free to take them out if you feel that they shouldn't be there. Fattonyni (talk) 12:16, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Synonyms and meanings
[edit]Why remove references to shit and bullshit, leaving only feces? These are both legitimate articles, which refer to the other two most common usages of the word; I believe the best format was in the form of:
- Crap, a slang word for feces
- Crap, a slang word synonymous with shit
- Crap, a slang word synonymous with bullshit
- Crap, when your homecoming date holds hands with a guy the night before the dance and then says it was nothing — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jball622 (talk • contribs) 03:17, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Please discuss. Fattonyni (talk) 18:08, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- I have referred to mos:dab#Synonyms and altered the page according to that worthy advice ... good spot. Abtract (talk) 18:46, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- Agree with Fattonyni. I'll restore that bit to the way it was before ;) Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:36, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- Could you please look at mos:dab#Synonyms where it clearly indicates that a simple statement of the synonym is preferred. Abtract (talk) 07:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- I think the issue is that mos:dab#Synonyms only addresses when there is one synonym, and there should be some way to distinguish the three synonyms on this page. And they aren't quite synonyms in usage in any case, e.g. One can "call bullshit on an assertion" but not "call crap on an assertion", but instead say "that assertion is crap". It's an interesting, if rather minor, point on how to disambiguate multiple articles with overlapping meanings. Surely it must have happened on the wiki before... - BanyanTree 07:45, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- I think this is a slightly special case anyway, where single-word links don't suit so well (although thanks for the edits Abtract!) -- the problem here being that the page just becomes a list of linked swearwords, which I think could prove too much of a temptation for "playful" editors to just start adding more random swearword articles to the list. At least with the above format, it looks more encyclopaedic and less provocative. Oh, and I also edited my above proposal for capitalisation, after seeing Sesshomaru's article update (good job there). Fattonyni (talk) 12:25, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- OK I hear what you say and but I am still left with the uncomfortable impression, when I read the page, that the synonyms have taken over. IMHO disambiguation would be better served by simply showing feces as the first item (in the same way as tablespoon) and relegating bullshit and shit to the see other section, if they have to be there at all. It is no big deal but there is a bit of a principle involved (what to do with multi-synonyms) so I am going to ask for a second opinion from a dab expert at mos:dab. Abtract (talk) 18:43, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- I think this is a slightly special case anyway, where single-word links don't suit so well (although thanks for the edits Abtract!) -- the problem here being that the page just becomes a list of linked swearwords, which I think could prove too much of a temptation for "playful" editors to just start adding more random swearword articles to the list. At least with the above format, it looks more encyclopaedic and less provocative. Oh, and I also edited my above proposal for capitalisation, after seeing Sesshomaru's article update (good job there). Fattonyni (talk) 12:25, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- I think the issue is that mos:dab#Synonyms only addresses when there is one synonym, and there should be some way to distinguish the three synonyms on this page. And they aren't quite synonyms in usage in any case, e.g. One can "call bullshit on an assertion" but not "call crap on an assertion", but instead say "that assertion is crap". It's an interesting, if rather minor, point on how to disambiguate multiple articles with overlapping meanings. Surely it must have happened on the wiki before... - BanyanTree 07:45, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- Could you please look at mos:dab#Synonyms where it clearly indicates that a simple statement of the synonym is preferred. Abtract (talk) 07:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- I prefer Abtract's version. Pointless verbiage isn't going to impede "playful editors", or vandals; this page is going to get vandalized repeatedly no matter how it's put together. Just list the synonyms without comment and put the page on your Watchlist.--ShelfSkewed Talk 19:17, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Edit request from 78.109.183.87, 7 May 2011
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Please remove "such as Twitter" as this is victimising a specific thing without grounding
78.109.183.87 (talk) 21:25, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Done, looks like vandalism. CTJF83 22:11, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Please add "Change Risk Analysis and Predictions" to the abbreviations list.
Edit request on 13 October 2013
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It is a misconception that he word "crap" is derived from surname of Thomas Crapper. It is actually a derivative of the Latin word.
Source: http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/crap (It also state this on the List of common false etymologies wiki page Pandemoniumm (talk) 05:55, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- Yep, and that's one reason random facts don't belong on disambiguation pages.
Fixed, thanks. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 07:06, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
Is Crap a curse word?
[edit]Wikipedia does not classify it as a curse word, while Wiktionary does. Homechallenge55 (talk) 03:40, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
[edit]There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Feces which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 18:45, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 25 November 2021
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The words Captain and Mendota, California look like vandalism 2601:843:C202:3B10:1585:57D3:4278:18FF (talk) 22:12, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
- Done Removed, didn't see anything in the articles that would link then to this disambiguation page. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:18, 25 November 2021 (UTC)