Talk:October 13

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October 13 Whirlpool Galaxy 645 – Goguryeo–Tang War: Led by Emperor Taizong, the Tang army was forced to abandon a siege of Ansi Fortress. 1773 – French astronomer Charles Messier discovered the Whirlpool Galaxy (pictured), an interacting, grand design spiral galaxy located an estimated 31 million light-years away. 1917 – At least 30,000 people witnessed the Miracle of the Sun in the fields of Cova da Iria near Fátima, Portugal. 1961 – Newly elected Burundian prime minister Louis Rwagasore was assassinated by his political rivals. 2013 – During the Hindu festival of Navaratri at a temple in Madhya Pradesh, India, rumours about an impending bridge collapse caused a stampede that resulted in 115 deaths. Robert I, Count of Flanders (d. 1093) Bernard Bosanquet (b. 1877) Thomas White (d. 1957) Rebecca Clarke (d. 1979) More anniversaries: October 12 October 13 October 14

Moved / removed

Moved:

• 1981 - Vice President Hosni Mubarak is elected President of Egypt one week after Anwar Sadat was assassinated.

Nope. Happened on the 14th. --mav 03:09, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Removed:

• 1982 - Lotus 1-2-3 introduced.

Could not be confirmed. --mav 03:09, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Lottery

are we, like, serious about that lottery stuff? 69.221.3.185 05:44, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

California Lottery numbers from October 1990, which have been redacted from the official website run by the state.

373 Oct 31, 1990      1  5 13 24 36 43            
372 Oct 27, 1990      5  8 9 23 29 39            
371 Oct 24, 1990      1  10 26 28 35 50            
370 Oct 20, 1990      6  7  9  20 29 38            
369 Oct 17, 1990      13 24 26 37 42 53            
368 Oct 13, 1990      1   5  7  15  17  51        
367 Oct 10, 1990      6  14 16  20  40  49            
366 Oct 06, 1990      10 28 29 33 34 43            
365 Oct 03, 1990      3  22 26 35 43 52

It is not a pleasant fact of history that the the encoding of the name AL-QEADA using the mnemonic major system yields the number 175, just as it is not a pleasant fact of history that certain other historic events such as the holocaust or the murder of actress Sharon Tate because Charles Manson and his followers claimed to be recieving messages from the Beatles in the lyrics of the song Helter Skelter, actually occured.

Mr. RickK seems so be taking a revisionist view of history that certain events, which seem either implausible, unlikely, or unpleasant, or in some combination thereof, must therefore be "nonesense" and subject to deletion, without having made any effort toward verification. How would other wikipedians feel if the articles on the holocaust or Helter Skelter were similarly deleted? Lazarus666 00:11, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Nonsense links between the California lottery, al-Qaeda and the Lebanese invasion of Syria do not in any way relate to the holocaust, helter skelter, or an encyclopedia. RickK 02:44, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)

Re. the Knights Templar (1307) "on this day" entry

I think I probably muddled my back-of-the-envelope calculations on this, but is it really the case that "13 October" (according to the Gregorian calendar in effect now) is the "anniversary" of "Friday, 13 October 1307 CE" according to the Julian calendar in effect on that day of that year...?
In other words, wouldn't the "anniversary" of the events on that day more properly be commemorated on a different "day of the year" according to the different calendar system we now use to "enumerate" that day?
Wikiscient 00:06, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

It's pretty well documented that the arrest occurred on a Friday, October the 13th. Though it has nothing to do with the Friday the 13th superstition, which is a fairly recent invention. The anniversary is properly recognized on "October 13", whichever day of the week that happens to be. --Elonka 00:20, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

I'd have thought, Elonka, considering the bio on your user page, that you'd have better-appreciated the point I am trying to make here...

{*sigh*}... I'll give some thought to better spelling out that point, then, I guess...

Regards ;) --Wikiscient 00:54, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Edit conflict: That might be better discussed at Knights Templar. Looking at it from this end, I'd say that it doesn't matter which calendar is used, if October 13 is the date, it was the date in either calendar (i.e. it was the date called October 13). Whatever the article uses and the date that is most widely used should be used here. -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 00:23, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Please see further discussion at: Talk:Knights Templar#Friday the 13th revisited...:

...

• "Friday, October 13, 1307" according to the Julian calendar in use at that time corresponds (retroactively) to "Friday, October 21, 1307" according to the Gregorian calendar system we are using now (see eg. 21 October 1307).
• "Thursday, October 13, 1307" according to the Gregorian calendar corresponds in fact to "Thursday, October 5, 1307" in the Julian calendar (13 October 1307).

So, you see, "October 13" is not necessarily "October 13"... ;)

I haven't found the formal WP policy for this, but I guess I should really be taking this up on the List of historical anniversaries page or whatever. I guess it's a matter of which to consider important (academically speaking...;) about an "anniversary":

• the "date" (ie., an arbitrary label), or
• the "day" (ie. the "timing" of a recurring astronomical position in space of the Earth with respect to the sun)?

...

Wikiscient 18:08, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

I did find this precedent in the November 7 article:

• 1917 – Russian Revolution: In Petrograd, Russia, Bolshevik leaders Vladimir Lenin and Leon Trotsky lead revolutionaries in overthrowing the Provisional Government (As Russia was still using the Julian Calendar, subsequent period references show the date as October 25).

The October Revolution article uses the November 7 date throughout, and my own original research indicates that is the date it is now officially commemorated in Russia.

The october 25 article just has this:

• 1917 – Traditionally understood date of the October Revolution, involving the capture of the Winter Palace, Petrograd, Russia.

Which is more or less what I am suggesting we do with this article as regards the Knights Templar.

Wikiscient 18:21, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Molay's Birthday

There is nothing in any article related to Jaques de Molay, the Templars or their suppression to suggest that de Molay was born on this date. In fact, no birth date is given in his article. Suggest removal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.69.84.30 (talk) 22:30, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Friday 13 October, 1972, uraguay

There were actually 72 total people on the day that plance crashed, 45 of them were rugby players. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.136.18.47 (talk) 22:27, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Blessed Pacifique de Valences OFM Cap

I understand that the policy for this page is that there needs to be a Wiki page for individuals mentioned. I found Magdalen de Pannatieri under the Wiki spelling and added that, but I can't find an article for Pacifique (or Pacifico) de Valences, and so unfortunately he has to go. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 12:50, 13 October 2016 (UTC)