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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Stonewall riots → Stonewall uprising – The Stonewall uprising was a civil rights movement, a rebellion, and an uprising. It was never about "riots" and was never meant to be so in the first place.
"It was a rebellion, it was an uprising, it was a civil rights disobedience -- it wasn't no damn riot", declared Stormé at a public and videographed SVA-sponsored "Stonewall Symposium", referring to the historic 1969 Stonewall Rebellion. Stormé was a part of the uprising on the very first night, Friday, June 27th 1969. "The cops were parading patrons out of the front door of The Stonewall at about two o' clock in the morning. I saw this one boy being taken out by three cops, only one in uniform. Three to one! I told my pals, 'I know him! That's Willson, my friend Sonia Jane's friend.' Willson briefly broke loose but they grabbed the back of his jacket and pulled him right down on the cement street. One of them did a drop kick on him. Another cop senselessly hit him from the back. Right after that, a cop said to me: 'Move faggot', thinking that I was a Gay guy. I said, 'I will not! And, don't you dare touch me.' With that, the cop shoved me and I instinctively punched him right in his face. He bled! He was then dropping to the ground -- not me!"[1] — CrafterNova[ TALK ][ CONT ]09:36, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not leaving a formal !vote on this yet, but is there any evidence that sources commonly use "Stonewall uprising"? Looking at the Google N-gram results for this, books seem to use "Stonewall riots" over "Stonewall uprising" (the latter of which isn't used at all). This seems to imply that the WP:COMMONNAME of this event is not "Stonewall uprising". Epicgenius (talk) 13:10, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per estar8806's comment below. It looks like I was accidentally searching for the all-caps version of these terms, but even with the terms properly capitalized, "Stonewall uprising" is used much less than "Stonewall riots". I'd be willing to change my !vote if there are sufficient examples that reliable sources are consistently using "Stonewall uprising" over "Stonewall riots". The nominator's quote—the only example proffered in support of the new name—doesn't even use the phrase "Stonewall uprising" specifically. – Epicgenius (talk) 18:16, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. "Riot" has a negative connotation and "uprising" is the preferred terminology of both the veterans of the uprising and within the current LGBT+ community. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:58, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nutiketaiel, did you mean to ping me? I was commenting on the fact that "uprising" is used less often than "riot" in reliable sources, whereas your comment appears to be a !vote. – Epicgenius (talk) 15:04, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Per all of the above. No one will know what a "Stonewall uprising" is, I doubt that readers will be coming to the pages of Wikipedia looking for an article on the "Stonewall uprising"... - Shearonink (talk) 19:52, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe readers looking for the historical term, the more widely-known term, the common-name shouldn't be redirected? And I am not certain that Stonewall riots is deprecated...not quite yet. - Shearonink (talk) 18:12, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The difference between a "riot" and an "uprising" is mostly rhetorical; surely the events constitute both. Ngrams and unscientific comparisons of Google Scholar results[2][3][4] seem to show a sustained preference for "riots" as the WP:COMMONNAME. GLAAD's coverage guide, this article by Stonewall (organization), uses "Rebellion", "Riots", and "Uprising" interchangeably. In their June 2019 topical guide (unable to retrieve due to Wayback Machine outage), the AP Stylebook says The word Stonewall is OK in all references to the uprising by New York’s LGBTQ communities that began on June 28, 1969, in response to the police raid of the Stonewall Inn. Can also be described as the Stonewall riots or the Stonewall rebellion. –RoxySaunders 🏳️⚧️ (talk • stalk) 03:37, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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